Yes.
Evidence of meeting #84 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was chair.
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Evidence of meeting #84 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
We're now talking about the amendment.
I have a new floor. I have Mr. Dykstra, Mr. Leung, Mr. Weston, Mr. Opitz, Mr. Menegakis, and Ms. James.
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
Of course. Ms. Sims, Madam Groguhé, Ms. Sitsabaiesan, Ms. Latendresse—hello, welcome to the committee.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I don't think I've met you before. You're next and followed by Mr. Lamoureux.
NDP
Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC
Just on what happened here. I'm trying to seek clarification, Chair. I'm looking for some references as to why this happened.
When a subamendment is withdrawn, passes, or fails, you go back to the speakers list that existed on the amendment. I want an explanation of what happened here. I would like the records and the books, please.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I'm going to confer with the clerks.
Ladies and gentlemen, I've conferred with the clerks on Ms. Sims' point.
With respect to a speakers list, the clerk has drawn to my attention that there was a list made for the amendment made by Ms. Sitsabaiesan. I now have that list before me. However, I gather, after conferring with the clerks, that I wasn't present when that list was made. I didn't make that list; someone else made the list. You were chair and you made the list, Ms. Sims.
The clerks have advised me that I have complete discretion to form a list when something such as this has happened. I'm exercising my discretion. The list as I originally advised stands.
Mr. Dykstra has the floor.
NDP
Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC
With all due respect, Mr. Chair, when I suspended the meeting on Friday, it was with lists in place, with speakers lists. The meeting was not adjourned.
When a chair changes—and you are the chair, absolutely—I find it unfortunate that, as this is not a new meeting, the chair has now unilaterally started a new list.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
Ms. Sims, if you want to challenge my decision, you go right ahead. We'll do that.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
Okay.
Shall the ruling of the chair be sustained?
(Ruling of the chair sustained)
Mr. Dykstra has the floor.
Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
Thank you, Chair.
The amendment itself, when moved, was a little surprising for the government, because it actually changes the ability for the government to deal with this.
If the motion here, for the extension on the private member's bill, were to carry, it would mean that it would need to be reintroduced in the House through a concurrence motion, at least initially at report stage by you, Chairman. It would actually change the ability for the government to introduce that motion into the House by refining the day of introduction to one day, that day being Friday, June 21.
Now, the difficulty with that, and the purpose, I suppose, of the amendment, is to define one specific day that the bill would be reintroduced. The difficulty in that, Mr. Chairman, is that if the House were to rise tomorrow, Wednesday, or Thursday, it would put us in a position where the government's hands would be tied—your hands would be tied—in terms of the day that you would introduce the motion from the committee into the House of Commons.
NDP
Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC
On a point of order, Chair, I'm just wondering what time adjournment is set for today.
