On a point order, Ms. Freeman.
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NDP
Mylène Freeman NDP Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC
No, I'm sorry, I was trying to get back on the list.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
That's fine. As I said, we need to better understand what the government is ultimately hoping to achieve here, Mr. Chair.
From listening to some of the comments, what I'd like to do is to address some of the specifics of how allowing this extension will have a profound impact on what the bill is actually going to look like at the end of the day. That's what the government is trying to do. By allowing for the extension to be approved, the government wants to be able to significantly change the private member's bill. The question for the members of the committee then becomes whether they want to see the bill change, yes or no? If they vote in favour of the motion, then what will happen, Mr. Chair, is that we're going to see this motion ultimately pass, if a majority, and I suspect—
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
Mr. Lamoureux, we already voted on this. You're going into an area that we've already voted on.
I'm going to say to you the same thing I said to Ms. Freeman. I want to hear arguments on whether we should be asking the House for the 30-day extension or whether we shouldn't.
Conservative
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
But, Mr. Chairperson, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
So am I. I'm not going to allow you to get into something we've already voted on.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
The vote is about whether or not we should give a 30 day extension. Is that correct?
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
So should I not have the right to be able to explain or argue why it is that we should not be given the extra 30 days?
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
So if the chair is patient, you'll understand why I believe we should not be allowing the vote. The primary reason is that if we allow the extension it will profoundly change Mr. Shory's bill.
Conservative
Conservative
Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON
Mr. Chair, those are the exact same words Mr. Lamoureux said not three minutes ago. He's repeating himself.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
On the same point of order, Mr. Chairperson, I'll point out that if one gets interrupted, it quite often destroys one's train of thought. So you can't just pause and then click on. Maybe if you have a prepared speech where you're dictating from notes and there's an interruption—
Conservative
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
—and you're talking about something else, and I happen to agree with him. You're becoming repetitive.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I'm not going to allow repetition. I need to hear something new.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
Believe it or not, Mr. Chair, Mr. Menegakis can be wrong at times, and I've even known chairs to be wrong at times.
Liberal
Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB
At the end of the day, Mr. Chairperson, I do believe that it's consistent with the motion we have before us. I would like to be able to continue without interruptions, but if they want to interrupt, Mr. Chair, I'm not going to stop them from interrupting if they have valid points of order.
I think it's important for us to recognize that when we talk about this 30-day suggestion that is being brought forward by the government, we need to understand why it's not in this committee's best interest to pass this motion. If in fact we pass this motion, we will in essence be changing the intent of Mr. Shory's original bill, Mr. Chair.