Evidence of meeting #84 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michelle Rempel  Calgary Centre-North, CPC

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Christopherson, we have a point of order from Ms. James.

Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON

We've heard the same argument, with their claims that the government hijacked this bill and sat at the committee. In fact, I heard it multiple times throughout the past week when you were not here, Mr. Chair. But certainly we've heard it since you've been here, yesterday and today. We're going through the same cycle of arguments once again.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Ms. James is 100% right, Mr. Christopherson. I will give you an opportunity to continue. But if you keep repeating this....

Ms. James is 100% correct in her point of order with respect to repetition. We have gone over and over this. If you have a new point, I'd be pleased to hear it. If you don't, we're going to move on.

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Thank you, Chair.

Well, I am not going to voluntarily extinguish my rights. You say repeat an argument; I haven't even finished the argument once.

I would like to exercise—

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I've heard your argument. I've heard it.

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

I'm not done, though. I have more to elaborate on, Mr. Chair.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I don't want to hear it anymore.

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

You may not want to, but I have rights.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

No, you—

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Just because the majority says I don't have rights, it doesn't change the fact that I do.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

We're moving on.

Ms. Sims, you have the floor.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

It has nothing to do with majority.

David Christopherson NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Yes, you overruled the chair.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Ms. Sims.

Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC

Thank you very much, Chair.

It's my privilege again to speak on this motion, which the government has brought before the committee, the government side, using its majority. What it has asked for is an extension of 30 sitting days.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC

You know, Chair, it's very difficult when there's a running commentary on what I am saying, as I'm speaking.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

You're actually right.

Ms. Sims is speaking, and we should give her the courtesy of listening to what she has to say. The opposition is courteous, generally speaking, when members of the government speak, so I ask members of the government to allow Ms. Sims to speak.

Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC

In this world we're living in right now, Mr. Speaker, the debate has been narrowed so that, for me, I feel it's like walking on a tightrope across a snakepit. That's exactly how it feels. I do feel as a parliamentarian that my rights to express myself are being limited. I will try to once again assert, but with new points, why I think this extension of 30 sitting days is a bad idea and why we are opposed to it.

When I do that, in order to explain why I'm opposed to it, I realize I can't discuss what the intended expansion of the scope is, because the motion doesn't stipulate that, but I'm hoping the chair will grant me some leeway to talk about the actual bill itself, and what's in the bill, and how that is why I am opposed to the extension.

When you're looking at reasons for an extension—

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Go ahead, Mr. Dykstra.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

Ms. Sims is making it clear that she's now going to.... She's actually acknowledging that she's not going to speak on the motion before us. She's going to speak on the bill itself.

That's actually what you said. You said you were going to speak to the bill, and speaking to the bill—

Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC

I will have to reference the bill.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

No. You said you were going to speak to the bill.

Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC

I will reference the bill, Mr. Dykstra.

11:45 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

Through you, Chair, I would like to hear a new argument as to why we should not pass this motion.