Evidence of meeting #84 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was chair.

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2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

On a point order, Ms. Freeman.

2:20 p.m.

NDP

Mylène Freeman NDP Argenteuil—Papineau—Mirabel, QC

No, I'm sorry, I was trying to get back on the list.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Okay.

Sorry, Mr. Lamoureux.

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Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

That's fine. As I said, we need to better understand what the government is ultimately hoping to achieve here, Mr. Chair.

From listening to some of the comments, what I'd like to do is to address some of the specifics of how allowing this extension will have a profound impact on what the bill is actually going to look like at the end of the day. That's what the government is trying to do. By allowing for the extension to be approved, the government wants to be able to significantly change the private member's bill. The question for the members of the committee then becomes whether they want to see the bill change, yes or no? If they vote in favour of the motion, then what will happen, Mr. Chair, is that we're going to see this motion ultimately pass, if a majority, and I suspect—

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Lamoureux, we already voted on this. You're going into an area that we've already voted on.

I'm going to say to you the same thing I said to Ms. Freeman. I want to hear arguments on whether we should be asking the House for the 30-day extension or whether we shouldn't.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Yes, and exactly—

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Don't go into areas that we've already voted on.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

But, Mr. Chairperson, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

So am I. I'm not going to allow you to get into something we've already voted on.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

The vote is about whether or not we should give a 30 day extension. Is that correct?

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Yes.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

So should I not have the right to be able to explain or argue why it is that we should not be given the extra 30 days?

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm looking forward to hearing that.

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Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

So if the chair is patient, you'll understand why I believe we should not be allowing the vote. The primary reason is that if we allow the extension it will profoundly change Mr. Shory's bill.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

On a point of order, you already said that.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Yes, I have said that, and Mr. Menegakis has got to be—

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

Mr. Chair, those are the exact same words Mr. Lamoureux said not three minutes ago. He's repeating himself.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

On the same point of order, Mr. Chairperson, I'll point out that if one gets interrupted, it quite often destroys one's train of thought. So you can't just pause and then click on. Maybe if you have a prepared speech where you're dictating from notes and there's an interruption—

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Mr. Menegakis is talking about repetition—

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Yes, so am I.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

—and you're talking about something else, and I happen to agree with him. You're becoming repetitive.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Well—

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm not going to allow repetition. I need to hear something new.

2:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Believe it or not, Mr. Chair, Mr. Menegakis can be wrong at times, and I've even known chairs to be wrong at times.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Indeed, you can.