Evidence of meeting #108 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was border.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mike MacDonald  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Patrick Tanguy  Assistant Deputy Minister, Government Operations Centre, Emergency Management and Programs Branch, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Commissioner Gilles Michaud  Deputy Commissioner, Federal Policing, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Jacques Cloutier  Vice-President, Operations Branch, Canada Border Services Agency
Shereen Benzvy Miller  Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Evelyn Lukyniuk
Jamie Solesme  Superintendent, Federal Policing, Criminal Operations, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

May 3rd, 2018 / 11:45 a.m.

Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

Just for expedited countries?

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Correct.

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

I can table that. Sure.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

With regard to the decisions made by the short hearing process instituted in March 2017, can you table with the committee how many cases have been decided using this process; how many of the finalized cases were accepted and rejected, broken down by country of origin; and a detailed explanation for the criteria being used to determine when the short hearing process is to be used?

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

Yes.

Short hearing processes are related to the complexity of the case and whether or not we need to schedule—

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Can you please table that information with committee?

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Thank you.

Who requested that the short hearing process be instituted, the head of the IRB or the Minister of Immigration?

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

All processes are determined within the IRB. We do not take direction for the process that deals with case decision-making from anybody outside the IRB. It's in the purview of the [Inaudible-Editor].

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

So, to be clear, the minister has not given direction to institute the short hearing process.

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

Absolutely not.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Has the IRB chair given decision.... Sorry. I've asked this already.

Do you have any plans to add or remove countries from the expedited processing list?

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

The expedited processing policy is a policy around how we can deal with some cases. We can look at them first as a paper review rather than a full hearing.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

There's a current list of countries that are on that list.

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

There is a current list of countries.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Do you have any plans to remove any countries from that list?

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

No, it's not a question of planning. If I could just take a moment to explain what that list is....

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I only have two minutes. I'll take it—

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Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board

Shereen Benzvy Miller

I understand, but the list—

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I'll take it at that.

Just with regard to the number of projected illegal border crossers—or sorry, I'll say people who are entering the country, so that you'll actually answer my question—at non-official points of entry, how many are we projecting this year if there aren't changes to the safe third country agreement would be entering Canada through a non-official point of entry and then claiming asylum? I can take the answer from any one of your departments. Do we have a projection?

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Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Mike MacDonald

Mr. Chair, it's actually impossible to project because you can't determine what is driving people who are seeking protection, but our operating assumption is the same as last year.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Okay. Thank you.

Mr. MacDonald, you put a great deal of information in your remarks about the ad hoc intergovernmental task force on irregular migration. Can you please table with this committee all meeting minutes, transcripts, and briefing documents for ministers related to the ad hoc intergovernmental task force on irregular migration?

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Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Mike MacDonald

Mr. Chair, I'm afraid our department can't. It's under the auspices of the Privy Council Office, that is, the secretariat, so I think it's a question that the Privy Council Office could take on.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Excellent. Would you direct that question to the Privy Council and ask them to table any non-classified materials for this—

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Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Mike MacDonald

Our department will, indeed.