Evidence of meeting #19 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was program.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Leif-Erik Aune
Josée Bégin  Director General, Labour Market, Education and Socio-Economic Well-Being, Statistics Canada
Philippe Massé  Director General, Temporary Foreign Worker Program, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Caroline Xavier  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Nicole Giles  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Caroline Harès  Acting Director General, Temporary Foreign Workers Program, Integrity Services Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Marian Campbell Jarvis  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic and Program Policy, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

I'm happy to do that. Of course, Mr. Regan, as you know, we just hired 62 new full-time employees in your province, in Nova Scotia. They're going to work on family reunification, on getting families and loved ones together more quickly than ever. In addition, some of that work will have a spill-off effect on the Atlantic immigration pilot, which has been a great success thanks to our partnership with business leaders right across Nova Scotia. I remember visiting your riding and going to see some of the small business owners. I look forward to being able to do that again in the future.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Sorry for interrupting, Minister. The time is up, and with this, the first panel comes to an end.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the minister for appearing before this committee, not once but twice this week. We really appreciate all the work you are doing on behalf of all Canadians, especially during this difficult year when we have all been faced with unprecedented times. Thanks a lot for all the hard work you are doing.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

Marco Mendicino Liberal Eglinton—Lawrence, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you to the members of the committee.

5:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

The officials will stay with us for the second panel. I will suspend for two minutes, so we can get the officials from Statistics Canada and the Department of Employment and Social Development logged in.

We'll suspend for two minutes.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I call the meeting to order.

In this panel we will be hearing from Statistics Canada and also the Department of Employment and Social Development.

I would like to welcome, from Statistics Canada, Madame Josée Bégin, director general, labour market, education and socio-economic well-being.

From the Department of Employment and Social Development, we are joined by Katie Alexander, executive director, temporary foreign worker program and work-sharing program. We are also joined by Philippe Massé, director general, temporary foreign worker program, skills and employment branch, and by Caroline Harès, acting director general, temporary foreign workers program, integrity services branch.

The officials also joining us from IRCC are Marian Campbell Jarvis, Nicole Giles, Pemi Gill and Caroline Xavier.

We will start with Statistics Canada. Madam Bégin, you will have five minutes for your opening remarks. Please proceed.

6 p.m.

Josée Bégin Director General, Labour Market, Education and Socio-Economic Well-Being, Statistics Canada

Madam Chair and committee members, thank you for the opportunity today to share some key observations about the Canadian labour market, and more particularly, the changing labour needs in Canada since the beginning of the pandemic.

The main source of information available at Statistics Canada to measure labour demand in detail is the Job Vacancy and Wage Survey. Since October, Statistics Canada has been releasing new monthly indicators on unmet labour demand to provide a timelier picture of employers' recruitment efforts. For example, in December, there were 478,000 vacant positions in Canada.

A more detailed analysis of quarterly job vacancies, including by occupation and subprovincial geography, will be released on March 23, 2021, on the Statistics Canada website. When we look at these data, we see that, last fall, the job vacancy rate—or the number of vacant jobs as a proportion of all vacant and occupied jobs—was about the same as before the pandemic. The vacancy rate was 3% in December, following 3.3% in November, and 3.5% in October, based on our seasonally unadjusted data.

Since October, above-average job vacancy rates have been observed both in sectors where employment has been less affected by COVID-19, such as health care and social assistance and professional, scientific and technical services, and in sectors that have been more affected, such as administrative and support services, and accommodation and food services.

The agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting sector, which employs a high number of temporary foreign workers, posted the highest job vacancy rate in October with 5.7%, but it fell by half the following month to 2.8%. In December, the job vacancy rate in this sector was 4.2%. The number of job vacancies in this sector can vary greatly depending on seasonal trends.

Provincially, British Columbia and Quebec have consistently had the highest job vacancy rates since October 2020. These provinces also had some of the highest vacancy rates prior to the COVID-19 pandemic. From October to December, job vacancy rates were among the lowest in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Newfoundland and Labrador. Job vacancy rates in these provinces also tended to be among the lowest before the pandemic.

I would now like to provide a brief overview of the composition of temporary foreign workers and immigration.

Temporary foreign workers have played an increasingly important role in the Canadian labour market in recent years. Nearly 470,000 foreign nationals had a work permit that came into effect in 2019, up sharply from the 340,000 foreign nationals whose permits came into effect in 2017.

In 2017, there were approximately 550,000 foreign workers in Canada, representing 2.9% of the total number of people employed. Although this percentage was relatively low for the economy as a whole, it was particularly high in agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, where it accounted for 15.5% of employment.

In contrast, the percentage of temporary foreign workers in other goods-producing sectors was generally low, representing 1% of employment in mining, quarrying and oil and gas extraction, and 1.7% in manufacturing. In service-producing sectors, the highest proportion of temporary foreign workers was observed in accommodation and food services, where it was 7.2%.

Looking at immigration more broadly, immigration levels followed an upward trend from 2016 to 2019, with eight of every 10 people being added to the Canadian population being immigrants or non-permanent residents.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

You have 15 seconds left.

6:05 p.m.

Director General, Labour Market, Education and Socio-Economic Well-Being, Statistics Canada

Josée Bégin

In 2018 and 2019, the majority of employment growth was attributable to immigrants. However, immigration levels fell sharply in 2020 due to the pandemic and travel restrictions.

Our projections suggest that by 2030, Canada's population growth could come exclusively from immigration.

This concludes my presentation, Madam Chair.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Madame Bégin.

We will now hear from the Department of Employment and Social Development.

March 10th, 2021 / 6:05 p.m.

Philippe Massé Director General, Temporary Foreign Worker Program, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

Good day to you, Madam Chair.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Mr. Massé. You will have five minutes for your opening remarks.

6:05 p.m.

Director General, Temporary Foreign Worker Program, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

Philippe Massé

Thank you.

My colleagues have already spoken. I will therefore briefly describe the program and its repercussions on the labour market, as well as the measures taken during the pandemic.

The objective of the temporary foreign worker program is to enable Canadian employers' access to foreign workers when qualified Canadians or permanent residents are not available, and it works to protect foreign workers during their time in Canada. The program requires employers to obtain a positive labour market impact assessment, LMIA, to establish that the employment of a temporary foreign worker would not have a negative impact on the Canadian labour market.

While the program constitutes a small proportion of the Canadian labour force, workers are a key source of labour, particularly in agriculture and agri-food. Ensuring their reliable entry and safe working conditions is key to the ongoing competitiveness of these sectors and to Canada's broader economic recovery.

As I mentioned, to ensure that Canadians and permanent residents continue to have the first opportunity at available jobs, employers must submit an application for LMIA before they are permitted to hire workers through the program.

6:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I'm sorry for interrupting, Mr. Massé.

Can you please hold the mike closer to your mouth? The interpreters are having a bit of an issue with hearing you. Thank you.

6:05 p.m.

Director General, Temporary Foreign Worker Program, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development

Philippe Massé

Thank you. My apologies.

Service Canada reviews the applications to ensure that employers and job offers are genuine, and that employers have complied with the program rules and applicable labour laws. Applications are also assessed against a number of labour marker factors to ensure that the hiring of temporary foreign workers will not have a negative impact on the Canadian labour market. Among these factors, employers are required to demonstrate that they have advertised to and recruited Canadians and permanent residents, for example, through common online platforms such as Canada's Job Bank. This includes targeted efforts to reach out to underrepresented groups who may be underemployed in the labour market.

The program includes an employer compliance regime supported by inspections which serve to protect foreign workers from abuse and exploitation, and to protect the integrity of the Canadian labour market by verifying that employers comply with program rules. Penalties for non-compliance include fines ranging from $500 to a maximum of $100,000 per violation and $1 million per year, with program bans as well for various lengths—from one to 10 years—and permanent bans for egregious cases.

Finally, I would like to say a few words about the program's response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Early on, the government took steps to protect the health and safety of workers and the public in response to this new threat.

These included publishing guidance for employers and workers and introducing new regulations that compelled employers to meet new public health requirements. Funds were also allocated to increase capacity for inspections and enhance Service Canada's ability to receive and assess allegations of non-compliance.

Additional measures included funding migrant worker organizations to support workers affected by COVID-19, as well as new programs implemented by the Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada to help employers offset some of the costs related to the quarantining of workers, including improvements to accommodations to ensure public health requirements were met.

In recognition of the agriculture sector's reliance on foreign labour, ESDC has also implemented a number of administrative measures to support timely access to workers, including priority processing of applications from agriculture and agri-food employers. Conversely, we have stopped processing applications for select occupations and industries where the pandemic caused significant unemployment, such as hospitality and food service sectors, to ensure that Canadians are considered first for those jobs.

Lastly, the government launched consultations last fall with provinces and territories and program stakeholders to establish accommodation requirements for employers who hire temporary foreign workers, focusing on ensuring better living conditions for workers. We're reviewing the input on that and we'll be informing on next steps shortly.

We are of course continuing to work with provinces and program partners to continue strengthening our approaches to the pandemic.

We continue to monitor the economic situation as well as the pandemic. We will adapt the program to ensure that it works for employers, Canadian workers and temporary foreign workers.

I will be pleased to answer any questions.

6:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Mr. Massé.

Thanks to the witnesses for their opening remarks. We will now move to a round of questioning.

We will start our first round of questioning with Mr. Hallan.

Mr. Hallan, you will have six minutes for your round of questions. Please proceed.

6:10 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you to all the officials and witnesses for being here with us today.

What is the current processing time for individuals from Hong Kong who are seeking to make use of the IRCC's special immigration measures?

6:10 p.m.

Caroline Xavier Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Good evening, everybody.

We lost connection for a few minutes, but we are now back. If we missed something, our apologies.

With regard to Hong Kong, as was mentioned, we are doing all that is necessary to ensure people have access to be able to come to Canada, as outlined by the minister, with regard to the existing pathways as well as the additional pathways that are being added.

With regard to processing times specifically, I will ask my colleague Dr. Giles to give you a little more detail.

6:10 p.m.

Dr. Nicole Giles Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

I think it's important to highlight from the outset that we have prioritized the processing of all applications from Hong Kong. The way it normally works is that it's a first-in, first-out process. As an application comes in, it goes into the queue, and then it's processed accordingly. We are prioritizing all the applications coming from Hong Kong, and we have set up our system so our officers are able to identify those applications in the system and pull them out.

The exact processing times depend on the type of permit being applied for and the type of measure associated with it.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Jasraj Singh Hallan Conservative Calgary Forest Lawn, AB

Thank you.

Along those lines, what is the current processing time of the specific refugee resettlement applications for individuals from Hong Kong?

6:15 p.m.

Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Dr. Nicole Giles

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6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I think we've lost the connection.

Mr. Clerk, I've stopped the clock.

6:15 p.m.

The Clerk

It is a connectivity issue. I'm looking into it now.

6:15 p.m.

Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Dr. Nicole Giles

Okay, thank you.

As the associate said, we are getting messages that our connection is unstable, so our sincere apologies. We do have our IT here trying to remedy it.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

We can hear you. It's not a problem.

You can resume. I will start the clock again.

6:15 p.m.

Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Dr. Nicole Giles

Okay, thank you very much.

Currently we do not have any refugee applications in our inventory for individuals from Hong Kong.