Evidence of meeting #11 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was claim.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Brassard  Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board
Eatrides  Deputy Chairperson, Refugee Protection Division, Immigration and Refugee Board
Green  Lawyer, Immigration, Association québécoise des avocats et avocates en droit de l’immigration
Wallace  Assistant Professor, Refugee Law Lab
Okun-Nachoff  Barrister and Solicitor, The Canadian Bar Association
Robinson  Barrister and Solicitor, The Canadian Bar Association

4:25 p.m.

Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board

Manon Brassard

Front-end screening helps our colleagues improve faster. That would be good. I'd recommend effective decision case reviews and interventions, because the sooner we know, the better it is for us to activate.

Have a look at the legal aid system, because how it's organized triggers some behaviours. That is the wrong word, but that's the one that comes to mind because the lawyers' fee structure is such that it would drive decision-making from the legal aid lawyer as to when to do certain things.

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

Madam Brassard, I'm very sorry; I have to cut you off, but if you would like to submit the rest of those recommendations, I think that would be very helpful to committee.

4:30 p.m.

Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board

Manon Brassard

I was pretty much done.

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

Mr. Simard, you have the floor for one minute.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Ms. Brassard, you may have already told us this, but I'd like to know what the approval rate is for, say, every 100 asylum claims.

4:30 p.m.

Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Okay.

4:30 p.m.

Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board

Manon Brassard

That rate is actually fairly consistent from one year to the next.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Do you have information about the ports of entry?

Earlier, you said that there were 150,000 asylum claims in 2024‑25.

Where did those people make their asylum claims?

Can IRCC provide that information?

4:30 p.m.

Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board

Manon Brassard

Yes, the numbers are available.

We know how many asylum claims are made at an IRCC office. IRCC gets that information every day, but I think we have it as well.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Does that information indicate a trend?

4:30 p.m.

Chairperson, Immigration and Refugee Board

Manon Brassard

We can see that there are fluctuations. For example, we tend to get more asylum claims in July and August and fewer in some months.

When we look at statistics for a number of years, we can see trends.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Can we do the same thing for the country of origin?

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

Thank you, Ms. Brassard.

Thank you, Monsieur Simard.

Mario Simard Bloc Jonquière, QC

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

That completes our testimony.

I want to mention something very quickly, for the record.

Asylum claimants do not have access to all of the Canadian benefits in Canadian society. They only have access to basic health care and coverage. That's emergency and essential coverage. They may be eligible for additional provincial social assistance, but that depends on the provinces. Of course, they can apply for a work permit.

I want to make sure we put that on the record.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I have a point of order.

That's factually incorrect. That's not what the interim federal health program covers. If you're presenting government talking points, I think you might want to read the eligibility requirements of the interim—

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

That's not a point of order, Ms. Rempel Garner.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

No, you've put something on the record—

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

I have put it on the record.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

You put it on the record as a point of debate, so you've introduced debate. It is not factually correct.

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

I have not introduced debate.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Do you agree that there is an inconsistency in what you said on—

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

Thank you very much, Ms. Rempel Garner. I'm going to ask that you're—

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

No, I have a point of order. I want to take this to a ruling.

You have asked for something to be put on the record that is factually incorrect.