Evidence of meeting #38 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was nwt.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Floyd Roland  Premier, Government of the Northwest Territories
Michael Miltenberger  Deputy Premier and Minister of Finance and Environment and Natural Resources, Government of the Northwest Territories
Peter Vician  Deputy Minister, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, Government of the Northwest Territories
Terry Kruger  Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities
Doug Ritchie  Member, Alternatives North
John F. Kearney  Chairman, Canadian Zinc Corporation
Donald Balsillie  Chairman, Dezé Energy Corporation
Hugh Wilson  Vice-President, Environment and Community Affairs, Tyhee Development Corporation
Gilbert Cazon  Acting General Manager, Nogha Enterprises Limited
Daniel Grabke  Managing Director, Dezé Energy Corporation
Alan Taylor  Chief Operating Officer, Canadian Zinc Corporation
Todd Noseworthy  Chairperson, Northwest Territories Community Futures Association
Edward Kennedy  President and Chief Executive Officer, North West Company
Andrew Robinson  Executive Director, Arctic Energy Alliance
Boris Atamanenko  Manager, Community Programs, Northwest Territories Arts Council
Mary Lou Cherwaty  President, Northern Territories Federation of Labour
Charles Pokiak  Director, Tuktoyaktuk Hunters and Trappers Committee
Ted Blondin  Director, Mine Training Society
Hilary Jones  General Manager, Mine Training Society
Fred Koe  Director, Northwest Territories Métis-Dene Development Fund Ltd.
Ted Tsetta  Chief of the Yellowknives Dene First Nation (Ndilo), Akaitcho Treaty 8 Dene
Steve Nitah  Chief of the Lutsel K'e Dene First Nation, Akaitcho Treaty 8 Dene
Darrell Beaulieu  Chief Executive Officer, Northern Aboriginal Business Association

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I'd like to thank the witnesses for coming today. It's an important exercise for us to hear your concerns and about the barriers you face here in the north. It is important to get that information to our committee so we can then hopefully do a report in the end that will certainly benefit the northern territories.

Mr. Kruger, I just have a few questions about the Mackenzie Valley Highway you talked about. I believe you said it will take $1.8 billion to finish that.

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

That's the number I've heard, yes.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

Okay, and do you know the distance remaining to finish the highway? I'm assuming that this is a paved highway, rather than gravel.

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

I believe we're talking about an all-season gravel highway. There are probably about 1,000 kilometres left.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

There are about 1,000 kilometres left, okay. I understand that the construction period is a very short period of time. If you say that it's about 1,000 kilometres to finish, how long would it take to actually finish that highway? Do you have any idea?

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

I don't know off the top of my head. I'm sorry, I don't have that information.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

Okay. There was something else you talked about in terms of community deficits reported in 2004. I understood you to say that it is now $186 million. I thought it maybe was billion, but I was not sure.

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

In 2004 it was $186 million; the latest guess is about $400 million.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

I'm sorry; I didn't quite understand that.

Quite a bit of funding is needed, then. Would that be for the 33 communities you talked about?

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

That would be all types of infrastructure.

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

It would be recreational facilities, fire trucks, community vehicles, hamlet offices, water, sewer....

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

So there's a lot. Some of the communities are quite small, as you mentioned in your comments.

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

They're very small.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

You also talked about how expensive air access is. Do you have any idea how many of these 33 communities would have access by air?

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

Every one of them.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

Every one of them.

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

It depends on the size of the plane, but I believe every community has an airport.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

In terms of the airports, do you have any idea how regular these flights are?

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

I'm not familiar with the schedules, but some may be from one to two times a week to daily, depending on the size of the community.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

Do you know if they're bringing in a lot of supplies as part of that process, or is it strictly passengers?

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

In some of the remote communities you would be flying perishable food, produce, milk, etc., on a regular basis by plane to places like Paulatuk or Sachs Harbour or Ulukhaktok.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

Is that part of the food mail program?

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Communications and Policy Coordinator, Northwest Territories Association of Communities

Terry Kruger

I'm not totally familiar with the food mail program, but I would suspect so.

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Conservative

LaVar Payne Conservative Medicine Hat, AB

I have a question In terms of the R-in-C funding. Is every one of the 33 communities you mentioned in your statement looking for R-in-C funding?