Evidence of meeting #6 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schools.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Neil Yeates  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Christine Cram  Assistant Deputy Minister, Education and Social Development Programs and Partnerships Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Christopher Duchesnes  Executive Director, Inuit Relations Secreteriat, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Allan MacDonald  Director General, Office of the Federal Interlocutor, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Will it be used entirely to replace existing schools?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Neil Yeates

I can't absolutely confirm that for you until we have a list of schools that have been announced.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

But is that the intention?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Neil Yeates

That is the intention, yes.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Therefore, if there were to be any additional schools—which there are not intended to be—would there be additional operational funding?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Neil Yeates

What happens, Member, when a new facility is built—say, on a reserve—is that we assess what the operating cost requirements are for that school and make provision for them.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Let me come at it from a different angle.

Currently, is there any operational money attached to the $200 million of capital money?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Thank you.

If it is not to replace existing schools—and you don't know that yet—

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Neil Yeates

Well, I've expressed what the intent is, but we'll be able to confirm that once they're announced.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

When will that be?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Neil Yeates

It will be over the next several weeks.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

“Several” could be 52 weeks.

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Neil Yeates

No, it will be a few weeks—four to six weeks, let's say.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

So there will be no additional schools, essentially.

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Neil Yeates

I don't expect so.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Thank you.

Ms. Cram, I would like to move on to something else, if you don't mind, because we have very little time.

In the budgets set aside for post-secondary programs off-reserve—which are delivered in post-secondary educational institutions accredited by the provinces—is there any money earmarked for programs aimed at training First Nations people to become health care professionals?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Education and Social Development Programs and Partnerships Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

There is a health-related program. I believe Health Canada has set aside $15 million for health care training.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Do you mean $15 million out of a total budget of $22 million?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Education and Social Development Programs and Partnerships Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

No, it is not from the same envelope.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

With all the different envelopes out there, it is not surprising that confusion exists.

Let me just digress for a moment. I participated in the creation of a program aimed at training health care professionals in Francophone communities outside Quebec. A national consortium was developed involving ten different post-secondary institutions. I believe this is a five-year program, and these institutions are training 2,500 health care professionals at most. As far as I know, there is nothing similar out there for the Aboriginal communities.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Education and Social Development Programs and Partnerships Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

Not to my knowledge, no.

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Liberal

Mauril Bélanger Liberal Ottawa—Vanier, ON

Would it be possible for your Department to liaise with the Health Department to see how they went about developing such a program for Francophone communities outside Quebec? Perhaps you could use their model or, at the very least, take inspiration from their initiative in order to better meet the needs of Aboriginal communities in relation to health care professionals.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, Education and Social Development Programs and Partnerships Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

Christine Cram

We can certainly discuss it with the Health Department.