Indigenous and Northern Affairs Committee on April 22nd, 2021

[Gary Anandasangaree, Liberal, Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON]

No, Mr. Chair.

[Jamie Schmale, Conservative, Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON]

“On division” is fine, isn't it?

[Gary Anandasangaree, Liberal, Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON]

Yes.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Is anyone opposed to clause 2 carrying?

Seeing none, clause 2 shall—

[Leah Gazan, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

I just want to put on the record that we're voting against something that clearly came from first nations leadership, from people who are on the ground. It's unfortunate that on the committee, we are voting against the voice of indigenous people. I just want to have that on record.

Thank you, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Thanks, Ms. Gazan.

(Clause 2 agreed to on division)

(On clause 3)

Ms. Gill, your hand is up. Is that still from before or do you wish to speak now?

[Marilène Gill, Bloc, Manicouagan, QC]

I just want to make sure that I'm following things properly, Mr. Chair. Am I correct in saying that we've got to amendment NDP-2?

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

No, we are not there yet.

[Marilène Gill, Bloc, Manicouagan, QC]

Okay. It's because I heard Ms. Gazan and I thought she was talking about that amendment.

That's fine. Thank you.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

All right.

Shall clause 3 carry?

(Clause 3 agreed to on division)

(On clause 4)

We have amendment NDP-2, reference number 11214963.

Go ahead, Ms. Gazan.

[Leah Gazan, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

This is that Bill C-15, in clause 4, be amended by replacing line 1 on page 5 in the English version with “The purposes of the Act are to”.

It then continues forward.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Is there any comment on that?

[Leah Gazan, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

It's more of a grammatical correction, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Mr. Clerk, it's a good question. Would we need an amendment to have the proper grammar in the published version of the bill?

[Jacques Maziade]

Mr. Chair, I will not comment on the amendment itself, but if Ms. Gazan wants to move it, she's allowed to move this kind of amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

I'm just wondering if such issues could be captured in some way other than amendments.

Is there any comment on the amendment?

[Arnold Viersen, Conservative, Peace River—Westlock, AB]

Madame Gill has her hand up.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Go ahead, Ms. Gill. I'm sorry.

[Marilène Gill, Bloc, Manicouagan, QC]

What I wanted to ask was a question about a lack of grammatical symmetry. In the English, the plural is used and in French it is singular. I was wondering what the reason was for this lack of symmetry in the amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Well, I think perhaps you've caught us by being more alert to these things, so I take that. I guess a friendly amendment would be to Ms. Gazan—

[Jacques Maziade]

Mr. Chair, if I may, the question could be addressed to the department. That could help answer this question on that amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Ms. Gazan, I'm going to ask the department to reflect on your amendment with Ms. Gill's comment in mind.

[Leah Gazan, NDP, Winnipeg Centre, MB]

That's fine, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Bob Bratina]

Mr. Schmale, you have your hand up.

[Jamie Schmale, Conservative, Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON]

I have a comment, but it's not about the bill. It's something else, so I'll wait until this is done.

Can you come back to me when we're done?