Evidence of meeting #29 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
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Legislative Clerk
Thank you. It will appear in the minutes. We need to have it for that purpose.
Thank you.
Liberal
Bloc
Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC
I haven't done so on this committee, but I did previously request the adoption of a motion that would allow us to have a French translation of amendments put forward spontaneously. It was negatived. However, as the clerks can receive the English version of these amendments, would it be possible for us to have it? This would be out of consideration for members who cannot receive a translation of these amendments in their language.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina
Thank you.
Clerk, please go ahead with a recorded division on the amendment to clause 4.
The Clerk
This is recorded division on CPC-2.
(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
In paragraph 4(b), after the words “provide a framework for the”, strike “Government of Canada's implementation of the Declaration” and replace it with “examination of federal law in light of the Declaration.”
That amendment is intended to ensure that the division of powers is respected so as to avoid impacting provincial jurisdiction. It also affirms that the declaration is not immediately being applied to Canadian law. Rather, it's a source to assist in implementing federal law.
To my Bloc friend, I do apologize for the lack of French translation.
Legislative Clerk
Mr. Chair, I would just ask Mr. Schmale if he could provide us with that in written form as well for the minutes.
Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
I think we're sending everything over.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina
Thank you.
We will go to recorded division on CPC-3.
(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Liberal
Legislative Clerk
Just for the benefit of the members, it's clause 4 as amended, because NDP-2 was adopted.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina
Correct. It's on clause 4 as amended.
(Clause 4 as amended agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Thank you.
(On clause 5)
We move now to clause 5.
I have before me an amendment 11247926.
Go ahead, Ms. Atwin.
Green
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina
I'm sorry about that. There are too many grids to look at here.
Eric, please go ahead.
Conservative
Eric Melillo Conservative Kenora, ON
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I have a quick question or comment.
I'm not sure if the members would agree, but I think once we get through all the amendments of a clause, I do believe that there should be consensus to move through the clauses on division, without a recorded vote. That might help to get through this a bit more quickly.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina
Right now my understanding is that it is the wish of the committee to record everything, so that's what we're going to do. We're on clause 5.
Ms. Atwin, I'm sorry; go ahead.
Legislative Clerk
Mr. Chair, if I may, before Madame Atwin begins, if Mr. Schmale has an amendment to clause 5, maybe he should let us know right now, and we would inform him of the time to move the amendment. I don't know if the committee agrees to proceed this way.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina
I think that's a fair approach, in view of what we've discussed.
Go ahead, Mr. Schmale.
Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
Perfect. Thank you, Chair. I do have two amendments.
In clause 5, I'd like to add the word “reasonable” after “take all”, so it would read, “The Government of Canada must, in consultation and cooperation with Indigenous peoples, take all”, and then add “reasonable measures necessary to ensure that the federal laws of”. Nothing else changes, except adding the word “reasonable”.
It's just as a way to ensure the division of powers is clear.
Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
I have one more. Did you just want a separate vote on each? Shall I just put them all on the table and we'll vote?
