Evidence of meeting #2 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Roger Préfontaine

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes, and it's non-debatable.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

I'm putting that motion forward right now. Let's have a vote.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

I don't want to debate. I want to ask a question.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

No, let's have a vote. I want to follow the order....

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

It's not a debate. I don't want to debate with you. I want to ask a question.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Excuse me. Thank you. I've been told to follow the rules, and I'm trying my best. If I understand, if I put the motion now I want to go back in camera, to the clerk and the rules, can that happen right now?

5:25 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Yes. Okay, then I put it, and—

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

I just want to bring your attention to the original conversation about why we asked for it to be in camera. The comment was that we could go back to it, if we were having a challenge and that's where we are right now.

The motion is to go in camera

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair, before this vote.

Just to go back to what you've now cited me as saying—and I did say it and I agree 100%, but at the same time, so that my words are fulsome and on the record, because they were in camera before—what I said was that the point of going in public was so that the public knows the decisions we're making and the reasons for making them. If we're going back in camera, I would ask the question—

5:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Alex Nuttall Conservative Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte, ON

I'm not debating. This is not a debate; this is a point of order.

The point of order question is to the mover. Please tell this committee for what purpose you want to go in camera. It's not a debate; it's a point of order question.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

If I understand the rules—

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

Sorry, kids—hold on—it's non-debatable.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

Let's have the vote, please.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

As per the clerk, it is non-debatable.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Frank Baylis Liberal Pierrefonds—Dollard, QC

If you'd like to follow the points of order, let's have the vote.

(Motion agreed to)

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Dan Ruimy

We will go in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]