With natural resources, if we look at the model of Europe, they have natural resources, fewer than us, but they have a lot. What they've done is they've gone up the food chain. To the example of nanocellulose, it's used a lot in cosmetics, and we have some R and D on that, but we haven't moved up the food chain where we do very sophisticated products for very international, sophisticated consumers. Consumers now, since you can buy everything on the Internet, want very sophisticated post-processed products. We have not stepped up to that.
In the U.S. they have done that, but not as much as in Europe. It's really funded a lot by the Department of Agriculture and the Department of Energy. We have NRCan. We have other research institutions that do that, but we haven't made the effort of bringing them in on large-scale projects as much as the U.S. has done, again, for sophisticated post-processed products.