Evidence of meeting #95 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
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5:15 p.m.
Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
I'd like to make a friendly amendment to the motion. I would amend it by including Leah Lawrence, the president of SDTC, in the list of people to appear before the committee.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Just so we're clear, there is no such thing as a friendly amendment, Mr. Vis, even though you can be very friendly yourself.
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
It's just an amendment. You're proposing an amendment, which then needs to be debated and voted on.
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
I want to include Leah Lawrence. Point (e) would become point (f), and point (e) under the amended motion would include the name Leah Lawrence.
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Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I'm a little bit confused. The motion has been amended, and Mr. Vis is making an amendment now to the motion, which has already been amended, but he referred to sections (e) and (f), which I'm not sure exist anymore. There's only (a) and (b) and the list of witnesses who appeared before other committees whose testimony would be used for our work, so I'm not sure how to understand what Mr. Vis has proposed.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
If I understand correctly, what Mr. Vis is trying to do would be to add a fifth point, so after “Whistleblowers who have come forward,” would be “Leah Lawrence”.
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Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
It could be anywhere on that list. I just want to add Leah Lawrence.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
Okay. That's the amendment proposed by Mr. Vis. I guess it could be argued that it could fall under “any other relevant witnesses”, which is in the motion, but I understand you want more clarity, so that's the purpose of your amendment.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
There is an amendment on the floor, colleagues.
Go ahead, Mr. Turnbull.
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Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I would just say that I think that witness appears in ethics tomorrow, so if that witness is already appearing, then that's another witness's testimony that we would get before this committee.
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Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
I can't be at the ethics committee tomorrow. I have to be here doing other work, and I want to have the opportunity, as a member of this committee, to have her before this committee.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
We're debating Mr. Vis's amendment, and I'm looking around the table to see if there are more speakers.
Seeing that there are none, I will call the question. Is it clear to everyone? We're adding a fifth section after “Whistleblowers who have come forward,” with the name and title of the—
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Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
Mr. Chair, to be crystal clear, Mr. Vis has asked to add a fifth point underneath section (a) of the motion. Section (a) of the motion says, “all information obtained in the context”, and it lists the other two committees, so it's adding, to that list, (v) in roman numerals, and then adding a witness, Leah Lawrence.
Is that correct, Mr. Vis? I want to make sure I'm crystal clear on what we're voting on.
5:20 p.m.
Conservative
Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Fraser Canyon, BC
What I'm seeking to do in this amendment is to add Leah Lawrence to the list of names clearly outlined. I'll state them all. We want to have François-Philippe Champagne, Doug McConnachie, Annette Verschuren, Leah Lawrence, whistle-blowers who have come forward and any other witnesses deemed relevant.
That's what I'm seeking to do.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
I think that answers the question Mr. Turnbull was asking. That's in section (a), roman numeral (v), adding the name Leah Lawrence.
You were looking at the motion before it was amended, Mr. Vis, so you have to look in your email to see the amended version, which would give you a more solid footing to—
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound
We've reached an understanding as to what is sought by this. If there are no more speakers, I would.... Wait just one second.
Yes, Mr. Turnbull, before we bring it—
5:20 p.m.
Liberal
Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON
I agree with adding the witness. I think we should just pass this amendment on unanimous consent and have the witness added to the list, if the committee is willing to do that.