Evidence of meeting #95 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

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5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Okay. Everyone has heard the amendment. Should I call the vote, or is there unanimous consent on this?

We'll go to a vote on the amendment by Mr. Perkins.

Therefore, the amendment—

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Iqwinder Gaheer Liberal Mississauga—Malton, ON

I have a point of order, Chair.

I have a favour to ask right now. I'm just seeking UC to change my vote to a no.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Do we have unanimous consent to allow Mr. Gaheer to change his vote to a nay?

5:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

(Amendment negatived: yeas 5; nays 6 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Please be quiet. I'm hearing a lot of side conversations. I think it's important for everyone to pay attention to the committee's discussion.

Mr. Lemire's amendment was rejected, which brings us to Mr. Perkins's main motion.

Are there more comments on the motion?

If there are none, then I would ask the clerk for a vote.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Can it be passed with unanimous consent?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Can the motion as amended be passed with unanimous consent?

Mr. Lemire.

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I support the motion if we can wait until November 27 to begin the study. I won't propose a formal amendment, but the chair and the clerk can discuss among themselves.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Well, no date was specified in the motion—

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Right. My proposal is that we begin the study after the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics has heard from witnesses. They're supposed to appear during the week of November 20. We could have them come here the week of November 27.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Okay, if I understand correctly, you're not proposing an amendment.

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I think that's up to you.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

You want to help the Chair choose a date.

5:25 p.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Exactly.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Okay, I understand.

Does the committee wish to adopt Mr. Perkins's motion?

5:25 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

(Motion agreed to. [See Minutes of Proceedings])

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Mr. Turnbull, you have the floor.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

I think we've had a very productive meeting today.

I want to move that we adjourn today's meeting.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

There's a motion to adjourn on the floor, which calls for an immediate vote.

5:30 p.m.

An hon. member

I have point of order.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

I'm not sure that I can accept a point of order once I've called the vote.

(Motion negatived: 6 nays; 5 yeas)

The motion is defeated, which brings me to give the floor to Mr. Perkins.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Rick Perkins Conservative South Shore—St. Margarets, NS

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'd like to move a study motion. I think the clerk may have a copy of it.

I move:

That, the committee begin a study, of at least five meetings, examining the impact Canada's carbon tax is having in the nation's continued decline in productivity as noted by the OECD's ranking of Canada as last when compared to western economies. That the study include an examination of the United States approach to investing in green technology through the Inflation Reduction Act and not carbon taxes as a major factor in Canada's declining economic output compared to Canada's most important trading partner the United States since 2015.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Mr. Perkins, I understand that you're bringing this motion forward today, but notice has not been given and we're under Standing Order 106(4) now.