Evidence of meeting #25 for Subcommittee on International Human Rights in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was afghanistan.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Balpreet Singh  Legal Counsel, World Sikh Organization of Canada
Sukhwinder Singh  National Director, United Sikhs
Gurvinder Singh  Director, International Humanitarian Aid, United Sikhs
Tarjinder Kaur Bhullar  Director, Manmeet Singh Bhullar Foundation
Ali Mirzad  Senior Advisor, Canadian Hazara Humanitarian Services
Jasjeet S. Ajimal  Co-Chair, Save Afghan Minorities Project, Manmeet Singh Bhullar Foundation
William Maley  Emeritus Professor, Australian National University, Canberra, Australia, Canadian Hazara Humanitarian Services
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Erica Pereira
Melissa Kerr Chiovenda  Assistant Professor of Anthropology, Zayed University, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, Canadian Hazara Humanitarian Services
Niamatullah Ibrahimi  Lecturer in International Relations, La Trobe University, Australia, Canadian Hazara Humanitarian Services

8 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Thank you very much.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I don't think the bells have gone yet, so we're now moving to the third round. We have MP Baker for five minutes or whatever times remains.

8 p.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Thanks very much, Mr. Chair.

I thank all the witnesses for being here. I'm learning a tremendous amount from all of you and I wish I could ask questions to all of you.

We heard some testimony—

8 p.m.

Conservative

Kenny Chiu Conservative Steveston—Richmond East, BC

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I'm sorry, but I had my hand up asking to speak.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I apologize, Mr. Chiu.

8 p.m.

Conservative

Kenny Chiu Conservative Steveston—Richmond East, BC

That's okay. I'm sorry to interrupt our friend here.

I wonder if we could provide four minutes per party. Four times four parties equals 16 minutes, and that should be more than enough. I hate to have to cut short the witnesses. They have been so genuine and willing to come to our meeting.

I propose that, with unanimous consent, we extend the meeting by 16 minutes so that every party has four minutes.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It depends on how long the bells will go for. I don't know if they're going to walk it in or not, or how that will happen.

8 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

I'm sorry to interrupt, but I believe it's a 15-minute bell.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Has it gone off yet?

I'm looking around, but I don't know if we have unanimous consent. I don't know if we can do it either. The time just will not allow.

8 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

The bells have not gone off yet, but they will likely go any minute now.

8 p.m.

Liberal

Maninder Sidhu Liberal Brampton East, ON

I would suggest that we continue until the bells go off.

8 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Baker.

June 22nd, 2021 / 8 p.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Thanks very much, Mr. Chair.

Again, I thank all the witnesses for being here. I'm learning a tremendous amount from all of you.

We heard some testimony from one of my MP colleagues suggesting that Canada is not responding to the crisis facing Afghan Sikhs, or not doing so with urgency. My understanding is that this government has doubled the number of refugees from the previous government, and we've been a leader in refugee resettlement for the last three years. I know we've been working with the Manmeet Singh Bhullar Foundation to resettle Afghan Sikh families.

My question is to the Manmeet Singh Bhullar Foundation.

With respect to the statement that Canada is not responding to the crisis facing Afghan Sikhs, or not doing so with urgency, is this correct? How would you characterize Canada's response?

8 p.m.

Director, Manmeet Singh Bhullar Foundation

Tarjinder Kaur Bhullar

Thank you for the question.

The Government of Canada, as I said in my opening remarks, is the most viable option for this population, so that is essentially the foundation through which we have continued to have conversations with the members of government, as well as government departments.

I think it's important to remember—and I make no bones about it—that we need to get this work done. We have support from across the aisle and within the Liberal caucus. I have always said that this is not a partisan issue; this is a humanitarian issue. The responsibility lies with every single one of us.

We have had success, and I want to continue to have success.

We are in the process of settling the initial families who arrived in India from the province of Helmand, and we continue to say to the government, during our discussions, that we are creating a model that needs to apply to the families who have arrived since, who are part of the attacks that took place at the gurdwara. We also want to make sure that the lessons learned here are applied to humanitarian concerns regardless of where they occur across the world.

The thing is that we have to be able to learn and then apply, and as some of the other witnesses mentioned, always focus on a proactive approach versus a reactive approach. In a situation like this, reactive is too late, and proactive is what we want to see. How can we assist these communities before the inevitable happens and we lose lives?

I will say that we have had support from the government, and we continue to make sure that we press them on making this work a reality.

8:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you.

I'm going to apologize to everyone, to the witnesses. Of course the members know that the bells have started ringing, and we have a vote in the House.

On behalf of the committee—all the members, all the staff, the interpreters, the clerk—we want to thank you for your testimony and for your answers to the many questions. We truly appreciate it.

Thank you very much, everyone.

That will conclude our meeting. We're adjourned.