Evidence of meeting #35 for International Trade in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was julian.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Susan Baldwin  Procedural Clerk
Paul Robertson  Director General, North America Trade Policy, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Cindy Negus  Manager, Legislative Policy Directorate, Canada Revenue Agency

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, you're well aware that when a person moves a motion or when we are discussing amendments, you cannot impose—

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Is that a point of order, Mr. Julian?

Mr. Julian, as chair I call for the question. This is not a debatable motion, and it is in order, Mr. Julian.

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

It is not in order.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

I call for the question on Mr. Cannan's motion. Would you like to repeat the motion, Mr. Cannan?

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

It is not in order, Mr. Chair.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

I move that the debate now be adjourned and we move to clause-by-clause.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

It is that the debate now be adjourned.

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

It is not in order.

Mr. Chair--

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Yes, Mr. LeBlanc.

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Dominic LeBlanc Liberal Beauséjour, NB

I have a question. If Mr. Cannan's motion is accepted, does the committee adjourn for the day or do we proceed to clause-by-clause?

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We proceed. We're finished with Mr. Julian's motion.

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, you have the legislative experts here. I believe you should be consulting them as to whether or not this, what I consider quite outrageous behaviour, is in order.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian, I'm confident that in fact my ruling is in order and--

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Would you please consult?

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

--we will go to the vote.

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, would you please consult? You have to do things right, now, not like this.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Just a moment.

Mr. Julian, the motion by Mr. Cannon is in order. You of course can appeal the decision, which we would deal with now if you choose to do that, or we can go on with the vote.

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Yes, indeed, I appeal the decision, Mr. Chair, on the basis of fairness for committee work, and essentially when we have witnesses who have indicated that they want to testify amongst us and they want to come to the committee, those individuals should have an opportunity to be heard.

What we're suggesting, though, is even prior to having the decision of this committee--

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian, your motion is actually non-debatable, so you will not speak on that. We'll go directly to the question.

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, just for the record, because it is the right in the committee, every vote that takes place from now on I will ask be a recorded vote--in other words, a recorded individual vote.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Absolutely.

9:25 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Rather than wasting the time of the committee in raising this every single time, I would request that every vote from here on in be done as a recorded vote.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

The actual question here that the members will be voting on is should the decision of the chair be sustained? If you agree with the decision of the chair, you will vote affirmative to the question.

It's a recorded vote. Mr. Julian has requested that.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We now go to Mr. Cannan's motion that the debate be adjourned. That's the motion. What that means is that we will no longer deal with Mr. Julian's motion; we'll get on to the next order of business for the committee.

9:30 a.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, just to clarify, what you're saying is that there will be no vote at all on the motion.