Evidence of meeting #46 for International Trade in the 42nd Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Rémi Bourgault
Pierre Marc Johnson  Chief Negotiator of the Government of Québec for the Canada-European Union Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) and Counsel, Lavery, de Billy, As an Individual
Jason Langrish  Executive Director, Canada Europe Round Table for Business
Louise Barrington  Fellow and Chartered Arbitrator, Chartered Institute of Arbitrators, As an Individual
Martin Valasek  Partner, Norton Rose Fulbright Canada LLP, As an Individual

The Clerk

The comparison I have is TPP, which was something different.

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Right.

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The Clerk

The list was distributed last week, I think. I don't have the exact numbers that we received.

Sometimes it was cross-referenced, in the sense that some submitted their request to appear and at the same time they were also on the list that was submitted.

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Okay.

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The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Go ahead, Ms. Ramsey.

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Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

I want to request a recorded vote, please.

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

I want to make a comment and suggest a compromise.

I'm not trying to change the motion, but a possible compromise may be to allow those who have asked to do a written submission to do it, if we don't have time to hear them. That might be a compromise. It would be just those particular ones. I'm not talking about opening the floodgates today; I'm talking about just permitting the ones who have made an application to have the ability to put in a written submission.

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The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

You would have to amend her motion quite substantially, if she is okay with that.

Are you okay—

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Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Is he proposing an amendment?

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Okay, then I'm proposing an amendment that we allow written submissions in the case of the few who have applied and who won't have a chance to be here.

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The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

The amendment changes the whole motion.

Is that the only part you want in the motion?

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

She's talking about hearing further witnesses. I'm saying that we would, as a committee, entertain written submissions from those who have applied to date—not open-ending it, but to date. We would allow written submissions from those few.

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Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey—Newton, BC

That makes sense.

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Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Mr. Chair, I have a question.

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The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Go ahead.

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Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

It would be to my Conservative colleagues.

When you were negotiating this earlier, in the last couple of years, did people come before the committee? Did they have the opportunity?

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Yes, there was a full series of cross-Canada hearings and so on. The minutes are all available.

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

It included chambers of commerce, unions....

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

All of those.

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Karen Ludwig Liberal New Brunswick Southwest, NB

Were briefs submitted then, as well?

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Yes.

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Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Again, Mr. Chair, the agreement has changed—

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The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

I really want to get to this motion. We have these people from all over the country, and I really want to get clarification.

This amendment is only one part of the motion. With regard to the rest of the motion, does everybody agree?

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Conservative

Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK

What is the motion we're actually entertaining, though?

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Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

It's Ms. Ramsey's motion, with an amendment.

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