Evidence of meeting #4 for International Trade in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was agreement.
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1:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro
Rather than wait until later this evening, you are suggesting that you would like to deal with your motion and Mr. Carrie's motion.
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro
I don't think you need to reread it. It's already on the record, and I believe everybody has both of them.
Mr. Hoback.
1:15 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
Let's go in the order of precedence and deal with the motions. We have Mr. Carrie's motion, then we have the motion from Mr. Kram, and then the Liberal motion. If we can handle it in that order, that would be appreciated.
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
Rachel Bendayan Liberal Outremont, QC
Madam Chair, I had the floor and I proposed that we start with my motion.
1:15 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
No. We have a process we have to follow. It's not optional.
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro
She's asking that we forgo that process and vote on her motion first.
What is the will of the committee? Do they want to go with Mr. Carrie's first, or will they go with Ms. Bendayan's first?
All those in favour of going with Ms. Bendayan's first, please raise your hands.
1:15 p.m.
Bloc
Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay Bloc Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot, QC
Just a moment, please. Things are happening very quickly. I am not sure what we are voting on, because the interpreters have had no time to catch up.
Can we take the time they need, please? What are we talking about?
1:15 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
Madam Chair, I have a point of order.
You might refer to the clerk and the actual process you have to follow. You don't have a choice in this. It's not as if you can have a vote in the committee. I believe you have the motion sitting in front of you, and you have to approach it in that order to move forward.
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro
I think the struggle was the process we have to use. If the member pushes it to a vote and has the votes required, then we would go in that particular direction.
1:15 p.m.
Conservative
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro
The fact is that Ms. Bendayan moved the motion again and has asked that we vote on it, and I have asked the committee which one you would rather do. Ms. Bendayan has asked, and the committee has agreed.
If the committee wants to agree to it, and they did, then we would move forward on Ms. Bendayan's motion. It's the vote of the committee. The committee has voted to go to Ms. Bendayan first.
1:20 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
Again, I think we rush to vote without knowing the actual process that was supposed to be there. There is a process you have to follow. It's not a vote. It's a process that's sitting there in the Standing Orders on how you go through it.
1:20 p.m.
The Clerk
The clerk doesn't decide anything, first of all. There are no rules for that except that there was an agreement at the last meeting that Mr. Carrie's motion would be taken at the second hour of this meeting.
1:20 p.m.
Conservative
1:20 p.m.
The Clerk
It was a motion adopted by the committee.
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro
We agreed that we would hold it down and do it first, at the beginning of the second hour.
1:20 p.m.
Conservative
Randy Hoback Conservative Prince Albert, SK
So we should deal with Mr. Carrie's motion first.
You already have the motion in front of you.
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
Terry Sheehan Liberal Sault Ste. Marie, ON
The Standing Orders don't address this particular situation.
Rachel has the floor right now. She, at her pleasure, as a parliamentarian with parliamentary privilege, is allowed to introduce her motion. If that motion is defeated, then automatically Mr. Carrie's motion would be addressed. If it's adopted, Mr. Carrie's motion would be moot, but we still could vote on it.
I would suggest that we continue on the way we're going, with Rachel having the floor.
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Judy Sgro
I think I need to take a minute. This looks like it's going to take some time, so I just want to thank our witnesses very much.