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Slide 16, on the surface, is quite a condemnation of this bill, because every one of the people we're talking about is going to get out in the public again, unless they die in prison. People have constantly said that what they want is safety. It's the most important thing they want from the criminal justice system. This suggests that people who have been given a conditional sentence are going to be a lot less likely to offend and people are going to be a lot safer with conditional sentence than prison sentence.