We are actually trying to track at the provincial level. We know our own statistics, the ones that we have been.... I should step back for a moment.
With federal court-ordered counsel—these are often drug cases with federal prosecutors—we have an understanding, through our contribution agreements with the provinces and territories, that if we have one of these cases and would like to use the legal aid rates, we can approach the legal aid plan to see if it can provide a lawyer at a reasonable rate.
In any case, we have been trying to track federal and provincial court-ordered counsel, and we're in the process of analyzing these results. But we can see that the numbers are going up.