We have. We've had it since 1964. We've had 30% in murder and we've had 60% in violent crime overall in the last 15 years in Canada, according to the justice department that presented this data to you.
The point is that we're in declining situations, and everyone takes credit. It's much more complicated. You've got experts coming; I'm not an expert on this, but I can tell you that just as you can find some scientists who say that global warming doesn't exist, you've got all sorts of issues for which someone can come up with a study, and even perfectly good and very expert studies will sometimes show the phenomena going the other way.