I was referring to the character of its being an indictable offence, Mr. Chairman, which won't come until a third offence has been committed. I think that is important to understand.
Let me come back to the matter the member raised. You are completely right to say that we must work on several levels at the same time. Changing the Criminal Code is not going to solve the problem because there are socio-economic aspects that will require a lot of work.
You are right: for the support to really work, that is, the increased penalties that this bill provides for the first time in Canada, there must be more police and more prosecutors. Everything must work together. We are completely in favour of that.
But we must mention one current problem, though there are others: it is very difficult to set a reasonable fine for an offence that is becoming more and more violent. So I think...