I just want to build on that point as well.
I don't know if I'm speaking for anybody in this room in particular, but some people's circumstances are bad enough that prison is an improvement over their circumstances, because if you know that every day you're struggling and you're not eating, and you know that if you go to prison you get three square meals a day, you get a gym pass, you get cable TV, and you've got a roof over your head.... You know you're going to receive all of that. So if some people's circumstances are that bad and there are no options for them in the community, as I said earlier, for economic growth or to build wealth and support themselves, to them prison is an improvement anyway. So at that point, it doesn't become a deterrent, because you lose your freedom but you gain everything else you were missing when you had your freedom.