Yes, it was his first one--this is always the way. This is the unfortunate part when you're dealing with them.
My guy had 38 offences, of which 15 or 20 involved stolen cars. He got out of jail for stealing a car and stole another one two days later when he killed a woman. Those are the kinds of situations we're trying to get into the pre-trial custody and make it easier for the judge to do that, so he can, as I say, grab the kid by the scruff of the neck, bring him into court, and say “You're going to go to jail for a little while, while we deal with you”.
I don't know if I said it in there, but their attitude was that YCJA means you can't jail anyone. That's the way it was treated by the courts. It was extremely difficult to put somebody in jail. As was said here, you have one section that you can do it by, but that section refers to another section and refers to another section, and by the time you've gone through all of those, you say you can't do it.
The prosecutor in Halifax who had great experience with youth made an application to put this kid in jail, and he said to the judge, “Look, I don't think you can do it but I'd like you to do it”. That's the kind of thing that happens. It's not the murderer who's going out to murder. He generally does murder one person. But the car thief is stealing cars every time for a joyride, and in the course of one or another of those, he kills somebody. That's the reason we're saying give us the tools to cut that person off short.