Thank you, Mr. Chair.
And thank you, gentlemen, for being here this morning.
I want to address my first question to Mr. Norton as well. I was interested to hear your comments.
I don't know if you recall, but a couple of years ago in the GTA, or within the last two years, a major international Mafia organization crime boss was arrested in the Toronto area. I believe he has been extradited to Italy or is under extradition proceedings to stand trial in Italy for organized crime activities. He said—and you can check the record—that at the time he ran his international criminal organization from Canada because Canada had one of the most lenient criminal justice systems in the world in terms of both penalties and prospects of conviction.
Given that comment from an international crime boss, how do you reconcile your direct statement that there is no deterrent effect to mandatory minimum sentences? Doesn't his statement completely contradict your point of view on that?