Thank you.
I don't know if you had a chance to hear any of the previous testimony by the gentleman who was here on behalf of the Criminal Lawyers' Association, but he made a case for Canadians being compassionate. That's why we need to have the right to allow murderers, multiple murderers, first-degree murderers, even those like Clifford Olson, the right to apply to be released after as little as 15 years.
In my view, we also have the right and the obligation to--