That's unfortunate, Minister. I like listening to you, because you know exactly what to bring up to outrage us. That is exactly what you are doing, and it's quite brilliant.
It's unfortunate that my colleague Ms. Glover has not read the report. If she had read it, she would have seen that the reality she says she has witnessed in Manitoba—I'm not there myself, but she is—doesn't correspond at all to what I have read.
There is a lot of talk about aboriginal people, for example. There is a lot of talk about difficulties and violent crimes. But you can't take an isolated paragraph as you are doing, Minister. You have to read the entire thing.
For example, the report says: "Concern was expressed at the over-representation of Aboriginal youth in the youth justice system." It's bizarre, but I do not see anywhere, anywhere at all, where Ms. Glover got the information she gave in her speech.
I listened to you and you said that the people who were there, in your ministerial consultations throughout Canada, are the people who are involved in administering the Act on a daily basis. They you talk about "consistent messages from all provinces and territories" and "[l]ittle support for changes to the YCJA at this time". I am not the one saying this; it is written in the report.
There is an entire section entitled "Need a strong social safety net to support implementation of the YCJA". That is the product of your consultations, Minister. There is another one entitled "Support for review of the pre-trial detention provisions". You like that. There are interesting tidbits. Farther on, it says, and listen carefully, because I stress this: "No support for introducing deterrence as a sentencing principle". I am not the one saying this. Wow, Minister!
It also says that "[p]rogramming is critical to YCJA's effectiveness" and there is a "[s]ummary of other messages". You have to read the entire report. I have read it three times, and just in case, by some misfortune, the English version isn't the right one, I read it in French and English. I can assure you that this report does not provide support for your bill.
I will ask you my question. Why, even though I know you don't like it, did you not model it on the situation in Quebec, which has had phenomenal success, as we can see throughout the report, in rehabilitating young offenders? Why tear something down that is working so well? Everyone is asking you not to touch this Act. Give it time to mature. Five years is too short. The judges are the ones telling you this, Minister.