Mr. Chair, I'll just add one comment. The National Parole Board has elders on contract across the country who work with us in elder-assisted hearings, the vast majority of which are done in the prairie and Pacific regions.
Having been a board member in the prairie region and having led hearings in elder-assisted hearings, I can tell you that you can see the spirituality and culture of an aboriginal offender come forward. There's a visual difference. You can see the difference between an offender in an institution and an offender in a healing lodge.
So working with CSC on this, I think it's a tremendous opportunity. I think there is tremendous room to expand in that area as well. The success rates are very good.
As Dr. Foss mentioned, they're pulling on the cultural, the spiritual, the social, and the community to assist them to reintegrate as law-abiding citizens into their own communities.