Evidence of meeting #14 for Justice and Human Rights in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.

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Daryl Churney  Director, Corrections Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Kyle Seeback Conservative Brampton West, ON

We're winning them over slowly but surely.

4:40 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

It has been a long day.

(On clause 129)

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

We're making significant progress, though, Mr. Chair, as you may have noticed.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

We're doing very well, and I thank you for it.

We're at clause 129.

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

On clause 129, again, Chair, we see that this particular provision doesn't refer to the issue of record suspensions, and the principle is something we support, so we're prepared to support clause 129.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Ms. Borg, have you got that one?

(Clause 129 agreed to)

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Françoise Boivin NDP Gatineau, QC

She convinced us.

(On clause 130)

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Mr. Harris.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

On clause 130, we are in support of the board reporting to Parliament at the end of the year on its activities, but of course we would rather that these were called “pardons” as opposed to “record suspensions”, so we are unable, at this clause-by-clause, to support this particular clause.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

(Clause 130 agreed to)

(On clause 131)

Mr. Harris.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

I'll just indicate that we'll be opposing this. It's consequential to other amendments that we voted against.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Okay.

(Clause 131 agreed to)

(On clause 132)

Mr. Harris.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

We support that.

(Clause 132 agreed to)

(On clause 133)

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Mr. Harris.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Before we vote on that, I wonder if someone could explain why item 3 of schedule 1 is repealed.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Mr. Churney.

November 22nd, 2011 / 4:45 p.m.

Daryl Churney Director, Corrections Policy, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

The straightforward answer would be that when Bill C-10 comes into effect, persons convicted of sexual offences against minors would become ineligible for a record suspension, completely, so there would be no need to have this small subsection of historical offences still referenced in the schedule.

It will become moot at that point once the bill comes into effect, simply because if you're not eligible to obtain a pardon for a child sex offence, there is no need for a further reference in the schedule to those historical offences that are still on the record.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Thank you.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Thank you.

(Clauses 133 and 134 agreed to)

(On clause 135)

Mr. Harris.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

We're entering into a new act here now, the International Transfer of Offenders Act, and I wonder if we could have a five-minute break, Mr. Chairman, before we start this new act.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

Sure. We will suspend until five minutes to five.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

We're set to resume.

Mr. Harris, I would see the clock as 5 o'clock.

5:10 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Thank you, Chair. You're very wise; we're only five minutes beyond our proposed time.

5:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dave MacKenzie

We're still at clause 135.