I wonder if I could use the opportunity, Mr. Tilson, to talk about other charges that might be laid. You say the mandatory minimum is $1,000.
The plea bargain works like this. Somebody is apologetic, has clearly made a mistake, was stupid, and offers to go to the Legion. A crown prosecutor either withdraws the charge and lets it go, which happens, or gets someone to plead guilty to mischief and mutilation to property, generally, not the new offence that you've created.
Madam Boivin was explaining that's what happens. You don't get the transparency. You don't get the message sent that this was an offence in relation to a monument or war memorial because the prosecutor or the system regards this type of approach as being an appropriate penalty for the particular individual. I think others understand that's what happens. Lawyers understand that's what happens.
I think that was the point here, that this bill won't be effective in that way because people will find a workaround. I don't think you'll be happy with that. I don't think the public will be happy with that. That's why we're suggesting that it be done in a little different way.
If you want to comment on that, I don't know if there's time to do that.