Evidence of meeting #132 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cabinet.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

David Lametti  Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada
Nathalie Drouin  Deputy Minister of Justice and Deputy Attorney General of Canada, Department of Justice
Michael Cooper  St. Albert—Edmonton, CPC
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Marc-Olivier Girard
Michael Barrett  Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, CPC
Michael Wernick  Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office

1:20 p.m.

Bloc

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

To your knowledge, there have never been any discussions between the Prime Minister's Office and the Premier of Quebec's representatives on that issue.

1:20 p.m.

Clerk of the Privy Council and Secretary to the Cabinet, Privy Council Office

Michael Wernick

I don't know. I have no knowledge of conversations between federal political advisors and those of other governments.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Your time is up, Mr. Fortin. Thank you very much.

Mr. Wernick, thank you very much again for your 37 years of service to Canadians.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

I have a point of order.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

I know that at the beginning Mr. Wernick was very generous in indicating that he'd be happy to stay here as long as we needed in order to get to the bottom of matters. Obviously, we have more questions on the opposition side, and I'd like to move that we invite Mr. Wernick to stay for another hour with us.

1:20 p.m.

NDP

Murray Rankin NDP Victoria, BC

I second the motion.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

One second please.

It's 1:25 p.m.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Perhaps we could have an hour so that we can all get our rounds in again. That was the time that I picked.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

It's just that we'll be going into question period.

Is the motion debatable?

1:20 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

This is a debatable motion.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Okay.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

I just want to know if it's your intention to go to 2:25 p.m. It's 1:25 now.

1:20 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Let's see how the conversation goes. If there's a negotiation on going to 2:15, I'd be willing to talk about 2:15.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

I understand.

Mr. Fraser.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Colin Fraser Liberal West Nova, NS

Obviously, a motion was passed for the witness list that included a motion regarding how the witness testimony would go. It was to be for one hour. It's been understood that it would be with two rounds of questions. That time has been exhausted. I believe that's consistent with other motions that have been brought forward, and so I think that is the end of the meeting.

Thank you.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

There is a motion, so you have to defeat the motion.

Is there any other discussion on that motion?

1:25 p.m.

Conservative

Lisa Raitt Conservative Milton, ON

Call the question.

1:25 p.m.

Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, CPC

Michael Barrett

Mr. Chair, can we have a recorded vote?

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Of course.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

On a point of order, is it possible to call a vote on a point of order?

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Is it possible to call a point of order—

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

The motion was moved on a point of order. Is that possible?

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

I agree. You cannot normally move a motion on a point of order, but she did have the floor, and she could have put forward the motion without saying “point of order” when I recognized her.

Either way, it's fine to have the motion, because it would have come forward at any point. If she hadn't said “point of order”, I still would have recognized Ms. Raitt out of courtesy.

That being said, let's call the vote.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Randy Boissonnault Liberal Edmonton Centre, AB

Could we suspend, Mr. Chair, for five minutes?

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Sure, of course. If there's a conversation to be had, let's suspend before the vote.