Justice Committee on March 13th, 2019

Evidence of meeting #139 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

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On the agenda

Meeting Requested by Four Members of the Committee to Discuss their Request to Study Developments in the Accusation that the Prime Minister and his Closest Political Allies Conspired to Stop the Criminal Trial of a Company Accused of Bribery

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Pierre Poilievre Carleton, CPC

Luc Berthold Mégantic—L'Érable, CPC

Michael Barrett Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, CPC

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

Point of order.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

I have to [Inaudible—Editor].

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

Point of order, point of order—

1:20 p.m.

An hon. member

Point of order—

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

Point of order.

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Mr. Poilievre, what's your point of order?

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

My point of order is that right now we are debating a motion that I put forward and you acknowledged that it was duly placed before the committee. The member across the way is stripping members of their ability to speak on behalf of their constituents here in this committee, which is a delegate assembly of the House of Commons. We have the right to speak. Numerous people remain on the speakers list.

March 13th, 2019 / 1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

This is not a point of order.

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

Actually, it is. It is right in the Standing Orders that members of Parliament have the ability to speak, and I am speaking right now. I know that you want to silence the debate, you want to shut.... Your government has attempted to—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Mr. Poilievre, can you get to your point of order? Can you get to your actual point of order, because a point of order—

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

I actually have started my point of order and—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

I'll remind you that it has to be an actual point of order, so let me hear—

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

It is indeed a point of order.

I appreciate that this is a very uncomfortable subject for the Trudeau majority on this committee, but while the Prime Minister is trying to silence his former attorney general, he will not silence members of the official opposition, and we are asking for the right to debate—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

At this point, this is a point of debate. We're going to move to a vote.

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

Why would you shut down a debate—

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Because I have spoken to the clerk, and at this point you haven't raised a point of order. You've raised a point of debate.

1:20 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

It is quite clear that this is an attempt to shut down the debate [Inaudible—Editor] cover-up [Inaudible—Editor].

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you.

We're going to move to a vote.

1:25 p.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

Can we have a recorded vote, please?

1:25 p.m.

Michael Barrett Leeds—Grenville—Thousand Islands and Rideau Lakes, CPC

Can we have a recorded vote, please, Mr. Chair?

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

It will be a recorded vote.

1:25 p.m.

Carleton, CPC

Pierre Poilievre

I have another point of order. This is a cover-up.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Mr. Clerk, we've had a request for a recorded vote. Please proceed to the roll call.

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

The meeting is adjourned.