I think that the funding should model.... I wouldn't link civil to criminal, personally. I think we need to come to that agreement I talked about with the provinces. You have to set the benchmarks. What is the income of the people you're going to provide legal aid to? Make an estimate and go from there. I think it's going to be difficult to come up with a number. I understand your need for one. I get that, but it's very difficult.
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