The competition has been great in Quebec because it has enabled the public system and the private system to be efficient. The goal that was set at the outset of the regime in 1972 was to enable private lawyers to continue to do this mandate for the public body—not taking care of all the requests, but maintaining a balance so that they don't have lawyers doing nothing, and have a buffer with private practice .
But in recent years what we've been seeing is the beginning of a shift towards the public system, because the private practice lawyers won't accept mandates, as Mr. Aucoin mentioned, given the limited amount of money they would receive, or they would limit their practice to the mandates on which they can make money. This is about volume. For example, one of the interesting tariffs is the following. If you plead guilty to an accusation, there's a very short amount of time invested, and it's a lump sum. So if you have 20 clients in a morning pleading guilty, that's a great morning for a lawyer.