Evidence of meeting #7 for Justice and Human Rights in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was equality.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kim Beaudin  President, Aboriginal Affairs Coalition of Saskatchewan
Jerry Peltier  Senior Advisor, Congress of Aboriginal Peoples
Cynthia Petersen  Partner, Goldblatt Partners LLP, As an Individual
Gwendolyn Landolt  National Vice-President, REAL Women of Canada
Kasari Govender  Executive Director, West Coast Women's Legal Education and Action Fund
Rajwant Mangat  Director of Litigation, West Coast Women's Legal Education and Action Fund
Diane O'Reggio  Executive Director, Women's Legal Education and Action Fund
Elizabeth Shilton  Board of Directors Member, Women's Legal Education and Action Fund

10:45 a.m.

Executive Director, Women's Legal Education and Action Fund

Diane O'Reggio

We have continued to litigate equality cases, but it's been at a significantly reduced capacity. Again, as mentioned by my colleagues, the support of pro bono counsel has assisted us to do that. But it has been significantly diminished.

10:45 a.m.

Liberal

Ahmed Hussen Liberal York South—Weston, ON

This is for the panel.

Do you have recommendations on how to better provide equal access to funding by a new court challenges program?

10:45 a.m.

National Vice-President, REAL Women of Canada

Gwendolyn Landolt

One way to do it is to have an impartial CCP that is not involved in special interest groups so there will be a fair access. There was certainly no access to justice for anyone in Canada who didn't support the ideology of those managing the program.

Another problem was that there was never ever anything put forward so that people knew what was going on. Even the government didn't know what was going on. For the program to enable access to justice, you have to be able to account for what you're doing, and there was no accountability.

Those were the things that were missing. There's no access to justice—there never has been access to justice—under the old CCP for the simple reason it was bigoted, biased, and discriminatory. You can't have a program like that and call it “access to justice”.

10:45 a.m.

Executive Director, Women's Legal Education and Action Fund

Diane O'Reggio

To my understanding and reading of how the former court challenges program functioned, it functioned as an independent body. It approached cases professionally, with a high level of ethics and independence.

In terms of encouraging wider access, obviously ensuring that the criteria of how cases are funded is communicated would be important, as would be continuing to reach out to individuals and groups. A good part of this could be public education as well, so there's a strong understanding of how the court challenges program functions.

I have to say that in looking at the cases, not just by LEAF but other organizations supported by the court challenges program, I think that the equality panel and the language panel made very good, precise, and independent decisions on what cases would be supported to the benefit of all Canadians.

10:50 a.m.

Director of Litigation, West Coast Women's Legal Education and Action Fund

Rajwant Mangat

I would add to that very briefly, if I may. By having all sorts of different groups, historically disadvantaged groups and individuals throughout Canadian society, with some representation in the process in which decision-making happens, you wouldn't have what Ms. Landolt is concerned with—only one perspective as part of the decision-making. I think with a clear mandate and independent oversight, we may be able to address some of those concerns.

10:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Anthony Housefather

Thank you very much.

I appreciate the members' forbearance.

I would like to thank the witnesses for their excellent testimony.

Have a wonderful day, everyone.

The meeting is adjourned.