Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thanks to our witnesses. It's been very informative.
I'm going to pick up on something that Ms. Miller said earlier. You referenced nurses who are overworked, underpaid. They go home at the end of the day knowing they're not doing their job properly. The reasons for that have become more widely apparent as a result of the pandemic, even though they were apparent to some before the pandemic, as you pointed out.
One of the things that's become well known in the last 12 months is that homes that were operated privately seem to have higher COVID incident rates than those that are operated municipally or by other levels of government. I'm wondering what your comment is on that.
In your experience pre-pandemic, given that you've been doing this type of work for some time, does the COVID example extend to other areas of the level of care in those homes across the board? If the answer to that is yes, which I gather it is, what are your views going forward on private versus public long term care homes?