Funding is very important. Where it comes from is a second question, but I find it very hard to understand how, in the criminal justice system, we can offer alternative sanctions, for example, and they're not covered by the criminal justice system or by the same budget, the justice budget; it has to be community-based budgets that are covering it. I mean, you're providing a service to the criminal justice system, so to me that would be the obvious place to treat it in the same way, to ensure that the justice system pays for any alternative sanctions that are experienced in that context.
On June 8th, 2021. See this statement in context.