Can I follow up briefly on one other point? Traditionally, we also find, when recruiting members to the bench, that there are some traditional barriers. Some people might feel awkward, that maybe it's not for them. There might be financial barriers. You might think about Bay Street lawyers coming from a firm like Justice Jamal's. Having practised in Toronto, I understand sometimes that's a very real concern.
What kinds of obstacles are you encountering, even in this recruitment process? I understand that an elevation to the Supreme Court of Canada should be the absolute top career achievement for virtually any lawyer. Could you provide us with some insights about some barriers that you're still encountering from those who might be erstwhile candidates?