I think it's necessary to have a law that declares this behaviour to be criminal and not to normalize it. I don't think it's possible to use the criminal law to eliminate sexual assault. I don't think it's possible to use the criminal law to eliminate domestic assault, coercive control or any of those behaviours. However, I think it is necessary to denounce those behaviours [Technical difficulty—Editor] and discriminatory against women.
No one should expect the criminal law to completely eliminate any behaviour. We don't eliminate homicide by criminalizing it and giving people a life sentence. It's simply a necessary tool in the tool kit. Once you take that away and say it's absolutely fine to buy a woman for sex, you've normalized that behaviour. It's no longer sexual harassment. It's no longer a practice of sex discrimination.