Evidence of meeting #121 for Justice and Human Rights in the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was consent.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

About 45 minutes ago I had requested to do so, but I appreciate the work that you and the clerk are doing to help keep things running here.

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

We're doing our best. Thanks for appreciating it.

Mr. Brock, we'll go back to you.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Thank you.

Before I was interrupted again by a point of order from Mr. Bittle.... I have lost track of how many points of order he has made, and all he has done, Madam Chair, is engage in debate.

I just telegraphed to Mr. Bittle and his team that the more they stop proceedings and allow me to not continue with my intervention, ultimately it's just going to delay the amount of time I have set aside.

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I have a point of order, Madam Chair.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

I have numerous articles that I want to speak to as well as describing experiences—

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I have a point of order.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

See? There's a point of order again.

An hon. member

[Inaudible—Editor]

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

Okay. I see the virtual hand.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Perhaps it may be the first point of order and not debate.

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

I'm having difficulty recognizing who's trying to get my attention, because there are too many of you.

My role is to try to maintain order as best I can, so help me out, members. I recognize that you're all men and I am a woman, but just give me a bit of a break.

The ladies who are in the room are being fabulous, so thank you very much for that.

Mr. Bittle, I do recognize your virtual hand, so please go ahead.

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

Thank you very much.

As we have gone through, repetition is not appropriate. Mr. Brock is intentionally repeating himself. Points of order or not, that's not an excuse.

Despite how ashamed and embarrassed he is to have Mr. Viersen come, he cannot be repeating himself. That is a violation of the Standing Orders.

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

Mr. Lawrence, I know you have your hand up. Can I suspend for a minute or two?

I just want to review the rules for a second with respect to extra members, because you are still an extra member. Just give me a moment.

2:20 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

Yes, Chair.

Jamil Jivani Conservative Durham, ON

Could I just add, though, that you made it very clear that it was Mr. Van Popta that Mr. Kurek was replacing? Mr. Lawrence should not have been taken off the list at all.

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

Just give me a minute.

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

We are returning.

Let's get the members back.

Failing anyone's hand being up, I'm just going to say, Mr. Brock, can you continue?

2:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

I'd love to. Without interruption, absolutely, I'd love to, Madam Chair.

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

Do your best.

2:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Thank you.

An hon. member

Is Mr. Bittle okay with that?

2:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

Yes, it depends on Mr. Bittle. I think the only thing that's shameful and embarrassing is the way he has conducted himself with unnecessary points of order.

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

I have a point of order.

2:25 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON

He also indicated, which—

I touched a nerve.

The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab

Mr. Bittle, I'm recognizing you.