Evidence of meeting #121 for Justice and Human Rights in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was consent.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
Jamil Jivani Conservative Durham, ON
I know he thinks he's very important and special, and everyone needs to hear what he has to say on a wide range of topics—
Liberal
Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON
I don't know why Mr. Jivani is yelling over me about the fact he doesn't have the—
Conservative
Jamil Jivani Conservative Durham, ON
—but he's actually not that important or special. He should respect the process and allow people to speak when they have the floor.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Okay, members. I appreciate all of you.
One, it's not a point of order. Two, I neglected at the beginning to ask members as I did last time, and it worked very well, to please wait to be acknowledged by the chair before making an intervention.
Thank you very much for that.
I see a hand up from Mr. MacGregor.
NDP
Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC
Madam Chair, this is just for my clarification. Did Mr. Brock say this was a briefing? Did we have this submitted? Is it available on the website?
I was just curious about that.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
That's a fair question.
Mr. Brock, would you mind answering that? I know you're reading from something, but is it something that's available to members?
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
I believe the clerk emailed all members with this particular document I'm reading out.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Okay. Thank you. It makes sense why Mr. Bittle had it.
I think we're clear now. Thanks very much.
Mr. Brock, you can continue.
November 8th, 2024 / 2:45 p.m.
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Madam Chair, I'll continue with the quote:
The current version of Bill C-63, the proposed Online Harms Act, has some needed provisions but is insufficient. It would require online platforms and social media services to make images that sexually victimize a child or survivor or intimate images communicated without consent inaccessible in Canada within 24 hours after a complaint is made. This still relies largely on a user or victim to detect the image and file a complaint.
Conservative
Michelle Ferreri Conservative Peterborough—Kawartha, ON
On a point of order, Madam Chair, isn't it the rule that whoever has the floor is the only one speaking?
Right now, the member—
Conservative
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
On the same point of order, Madam Chair, I think Mr. Bittle has the ability to read to himself quietly without reading aloud so as to offend not only the person who has the floor—I can hear him chirping in the background—but also, clearly, my colleagues, who have noticed this. We don't need him to repeat verbatim what I'm saying. He'll eventually have the floor. He needs to wait for his time.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Thank you.
I think we are all grown-ups here, and we understand.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
I'm concentrating on Mr. Brock, to be quite honest. I still have inflamed ears, so I wasn't really hearing on the right side.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Those are fair points from everybody.
Mr. Brock, thanks for clarifying, and I think the clerk clarified.
That was a good question, Mr. MacGregor. All of these have already been delivered to and shared with members of the committee. I think members of the committee can read them, as well, but I'm not sure.
If you want to continue to read them, please proceed.
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
Madam Chair, I'll continue:
Between the time an image is uploaded, detected and taken down, it could have been viewed, shared or reposted millions of times—even if all of this occurs within a 24-hour period. Platforms must be required to have mechanisms in place to verify age and consent of those depicted in sexually explicit material to ensure illegal content is never uploaded in the first place.
We urge the committee to support Bill C-270's measures to ensure illegal content is not uploaded in the first place. Please ensure AI-generated content is addressed.
I now want to move on and read out the personal stories of various victims, some of whom have testified at committee.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Lena Metlege Diab
Wait one moment, Mr. Brock.
I hear a point of order on the right side.
Yes, Mr. Bittle.
Liberal
Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON
Madam Chair, I'm just curious. I hope Mr. Brock can let us know whether he's going to read victim statements to filibuster the fact that he's embarrassed to have Mr. Viersen come. I'm wondering whether he's going to use those victim statements for the sole purpose of preventing him from appearing here today.
Conservative
Conservative
Larry Brock Conservative Brantford—Brant, ON
First, that is debate. That is not a point of order. I encourage the chair to have the member cite the particular measure through which he believes I offended this committee by reading things out.
Second, I want to highlight how completely disgusting and disrespectful—