I'm sorry. I'm not sure what happened. On my end, there's a weird issue happening with the sound.
What I was saying to that point was that in certain instances you have to plead guilty before you can avail yourself of potential avoidance of the mandatory minimum. In requiring that, in putting that discretion with the prosecutor and not with the judges, what you're doing is really criminalizing the individual. They don't have the option of even pleading guilty, because that bars access to avoiding the mandatory minimum.
With respect to abolishing all mandatory minimums, that really related to drug offences and substance offences. Jackie is probably the best person to speak to that. In those instances, what we're arguing for is that it gives the ability to really impose a conditional sentence and keep the familial ties, keep less....
That approach focuses on a similar holistic approach to how we deal with these issues and the individuals who find themselves here. Let's keep them in the community to the extent possible.