Evidence of meeting #68 for Justice and Human Rights in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was mcpherson.
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NDP
Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
This ensures that a new application could be made after 30 days if the first application is rejected. Basically, it is adding “activity until the end of the 30th day after the day on”. It's pretty self-explanatory. It gives some clarity to the organizations.
Thanks.
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An hon. member
We agree.
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Liberal
May 31st, 2023 / 5:05 p.m.
NDP
Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Yes, and I will be moving this one as well.
NDP-10 clarifies and narrows the minister's power to request additional information. It ensures that it must relate only to the authorization or its renewal. It should be read, and we would like it to be referred to with NDP-11 as well.
The sector has argued that the powers granted to the minister in Bill C-41 are too broad and that Bill C-41 should clearly state what the requested information may be used for. It provides some of that and narrows the scope of the minister's powers.
5:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
We can go to Mr. Genuis. I just want to let Mr. Genuis know that if NDP-10 is adopted, CPC-1.1 cannot be moved due to a line conflict. Both amendments seek to amend line 30 on page 6.
Go ahead, Mr. Genuis.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Thank you, Chair.
I'm proposing a subamendment that would incorporate some of the additional language of CPC-1.1 into NDP-10. CPC-1.1 takes all of the language from NDP-10, but then adds to it. I'm proposing in the subamendment to add the additional part that's in CPC-1.1 to NDP-10.
I can read it out, but I think that's fairly clear. If the subamendment is adopted, NDP-10 will look the same as CPC-1.1 currently looks.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
It would add, after line 9 on page 8, the following:
(2) Any information collected or disclosed under subsection (1) must only be used for the administration and enforcement of sections 83.031 to 83.0392.
(3) The Public Safety Minister must take reasonable steps to ensure that any entity assisting that Minister under subsection (1) complies with subsection (2).”
5:05 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
Seeing no other debate, shall the subamendment carry?
(Subamendment agreed to)
(Amendment as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Now CPC-1.1 is.... You're not moving that, I assume, so we're now on CPC-2.
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Conservative
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NDP
Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will be moving this one.
This is following up from the amended NDP-10.
This, again, clarifies and narrows the minister's powers related to the security assessment. Right now, the bill grants the minister broad powers to ask any additional information, and this would limit that. It would clearly state what can be asked and would ensure that the minister destroys the information as soon as there are no longer reasonable grounds to believe the information is necessary to administer and enforce the authorization regime.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Mr. Chair, I would just say that I do not support this amendment. I don't think it's necessary in light of the revised version of NDP-10 that we passed. I think that achieves the same objectives. NDP-11 adds a whole bunch of other things and particulars that I don't think are required, given the other amendment.
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An hon. member
I'd like a recorded vote.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
We'll have a recorded vote, I guess.
(Amendment negatived: nays 9; yeas 2 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Now we have NDP-12.
Ms. McPherson.
5:10 p.m.
NDP
Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
This particular one is, again, coming with NDP-13. They would be included, so they should be considered together, I think, to some degree.
Basically, it is the idea of introducing the amicus curiae, who would be able to participate in hearings in the absence of the public and be able to be appointed, so that he or she would be able to provide that oversight in the event that we aren't allowed to have public hearings on certain things. It's basically just providing that additional level of support for organizations, that additional level of protection for them.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. I have a point of order. Maybe I missed something.
Was NDP-12 moved? Ms. McPherson seems to be speaking to NDP-13.
5:10 p.m.
NDP
Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Well, NDP-12 is supposed to be read alongside NDP-13. They have to.... They go together.
5:10 p.m.
Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Okay. We are debating NDP-12 right now.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Randeep Sarai
She just wanted to let everyone know that NDP-13 does flow with NDP-12, but we are voting on NDP-12.
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Conservative