We see it all the time. In the one example I gave where we were working with a woman whose mother was the surety for the perpetrator, that was not a good situation for the woman who was accessing service here. As I said in my speaking notes, the woman could not even access our service without a safety plan. It was difficult for her to come to a service like the kind our organization provides.
We see this time and time again. For example, when I told the staff that I was going to be appearing before all of you, numerous staff members wanted to share stories with me to bring forward, so this is not an unusual circumstance for us.