I'm just struggling to understand here where you would draw the line when we are talking about organizations that have committed in plain view acts of terror and that have as their charter a desire to eradicate the Jewish people and the Jewish state.
Anyone who's watched my work on this committee knows that I am a very firm believer in freedom of expression. I have been very critical of Bill C‑9 for, I believe, infringing on that but, if we are not able to have a conversation that calls terrorists terrorists, I don't see how we're going to be able to deal with some of the bigger questions facing this committee and facing society.
This is a very simple question. Do you believe that October 7 was a terrorist attack, not how governments view it, not how the Canadian government is viewing it. Do you believe it was a terrorist attack?