Andrew Lawton at the Justice and Human Rights Committee

That was closer to 60 seconds, but I did want to give you an opportunity to explain this.

Is it your view that judges have been interpreting the principle of restraint incorrectly? By clarifying, it seems that you're effectively saying that all of these police officers who have said the principle of restraint has made it easier to get bail are wrong when they tie it to that section of the law.