Thank you so much for this question, and thank you for looking at this issue as a broad issue.
One of the things that we say at Sagesse is that domestic abuse and coercive control are a whole-of-society issue. There are the people who are harmed, the people who are using harm and then the family and friends who are witnesses to it. The ecosystem that we take care of has to be the ecosystem of all those people. If we don't serve those who are harming, those who are harmed and the informal supports, we're not fully addressing this issue in the way we need to.
Ms. Kim has talked about how we need to have non-legislative responses. I absolutely agree, but I don't think they're mutually exclusive. I think we have to have legislative responses, and then we have to have really robust systemic responses for every part of society that's impacted by this issue. I also want to mention that children are a part of that as well.