I really hope that everyone here heard what the official just said. The safeguard against a catastrophe in a situation like this is the requisite intent. Part of the challenge with the clause, since my amendment was defeated, is that recklessness remains as a sufficient element to meet mens rea, which is why I have proposed that we remove recklessness—specifically for the type of situation that we're describing here.
If someone says, “I'm going to kill myself if you don't do something”, God forbid, how do you square the safeguard that you just described—the intent—with the fact that the legislation, in clause 28, makes it clear that recklessness is sufficient to make up the mens rea element?