It is Paul Bernardo and those types of offenders.
I will add further—and you said they get glee—and pardon the term, but it's noted and has been studied and documented that these types of offenders get off on retraumatizing the victims' families. In the Kimberly Proctor case it's even documented that they have shared their crimes in such heinous detail with cellmates that this caused cellmates to have to seek help and be moved.
While they know they're never going to be getting out, they actually get off on retraumatizing the families by having a free platform at the parole hearing and going into gruesome detail, as I said in my statement. This is completely wrong and unjust for the families of those I mentioned.
